1 00:00:20,028 --> 00:00:29,460 volunteer unfortunately this is the only 2 00:00:26,368 --> 00:00:33,479 thing I can say in Portuguese I'm very 3 00:00:29,460 --> 00:00:36,679 sorry I can sing I got a daughter Emma 4 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:39,359 if you like just kidding 5 00:00:36,679 --> 00:00:41,280 thank you very much for being here I 6 00:00:39,359 --> 00:00:44,369 would like to especially thank the Dean 7 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:46,620 of the University Fernando Zhao to give 8 00:00:44,369 --> 00:00:48,808 us the opportunity to present our case 9 00:00:46,619 --> 00:00:50,939 here I would like to thank especially 10 00:00:48,808 --> 00:00:59,519 Francisco who has been a wonderful host 11 00:00:50,939 --> 00:01:02,759 so far do you do you all understand me 12 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:05,880 clearly if I speak too fast please give 13 00:01:02,759 --> 00:01:10,319 me a sign you just make this and I try 14 00:01:05,879 --> 00:01:15,840 to slow down okay okay so thank you very 15 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:19,129 much my name is Robert Fleischer I have 16 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:23,340 been the the founder and coordinator of 17 00:01:19,129 --> 00:01:29,039 Exopolitics the Exopolitics citizen 18 00:01:23,340 --> 00:01:32,250 movement of Germany I used to work for 19 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:33,540 television so I'm a my background is I'm 20 00:01:32,250 --> 00:01:37,259 a TV journalist 21 00:01:33,540 --> 00:01:42,150 I studied conference interpreting by the 22 00:01:37,259 --> 00:01:46,290 way for French Spanish and I'm I also 23 00:01:42,150 --> 00:01:48,930 speak it's Italian and English which is 24 00:01:46,290 --> 00:01:51,868 quite helpful when we deal with a 25 00:01:48,930 --> 00:01:55,500 subject that has been ignored by the 26 00:01:51,868 --> 00:01:57,950 mass media worldwide especially in 27 00:01:55,500 --> 00:01:57,950 Germany 28 00:02:00,650 --> 00:02:08,399 when we deal and I'm very happy that I 29 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:11,340 have the occasion to present my case as 30 00:02:08,399 --> 00:02:15,270 one of the first speakers because I 31 00:02:11,340 --> 00:02:18,420 would like to seize the opportunity to 32 00:02:15,270 --> 00:02:21,900 give you a general overview of what 33 00:02:18,419 --> 00:02:23,759 we're dealing with worldwide and I hope 34 00:02:21,900 --> 00:02:27,900 my presentation doesn't interfere too 35 00:02:23,759 --> 00:02:33,599 much with the other presentations we 36 00:02:27,900 --> 00:02:38,969 will just see that so when the the 37 00:02:33,599 --> 00:02:41,810 question about extraterrestrial life the 38 00:02:38,969 --> 00:02:44,629 extra-terrestrial presence on earth 39 00:02:41,810 --> 00:02:47,599 always starts with a simple question 40 00:02:44,629 --> 00:02:52,859 because normally nobody thinks about 41 00:02:47,599 --> 00:02:57,329 UFOs extraterrestrials until they ask 42 00:02:52,860 --> 00:03:03,450 themselves a question what what in the 43 00:02:57,330 --> 00:03:06,480 world is this what is this is it a 44 00:03:03,449 --> 00:03:08,069 sketch from a child is it some pure 45 00:03:06,479 --> 00:03:11,219 fantasy or something 46 00:03:08,069 --> 00:03:14,069 it is no fantasy what you see here is 47 00:03:11,219 --> 00:03:17,849 the the sketch of an official police 48 00:03:14,069 --> 00:03:21,810 report from Great Britain which was 49 00:03:17,849 --> 00:03:26,329 drawn by two police constables police 50 00:03:21,810 --> 00:03:28,739 constable 657 and police constable 541 51 00:03:26,330 --> 00:03:34,830 who watched this object through 52 00:03:28,739 --> 00:03:38,909 binoculars on April 26 1984 as you can 53 00:03:34,830 --> 00:03:42,360 see it has blue white and lights there 54 00:03:38,909 --> 00:03:47,129 red light there white here it says white 55 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:49,080 blue green pink red lights this is the 56 00:03:47,129 --> 00:03:51,959 sketch from the official police report 57 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:54,120 the British police you can you can 58 00:03:51,959 --> 00:03:56,310 download the file as you can see I will 59 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:59,819 I will present you the sources as well 60 00:03:56,310 --> 00:04:03,000 so you can you can check the sources for 61 00:03:59,819 --> 00:04:06,409 yourself if you don't believe me this is 62 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,409 the report about it 63 00:04:07,539 --> 00:04:12,639 both officers accompanied mrs. and miss 64 00:04:10,330 --> 00:04:15,580 mm-hmm into the rear garden of their 65 00:04:12,639 --> 00:04:17,649 house where they pointed east towards a 66 00:04:15,580 --> 00:04:19,629 flashing light approximately 45 degrees 67 00:04:17,649 --> 00:04:20,139 up in the sky from where they were 68 00:04:19,629 --> 00:04:21,939 standing 69 00:04:20,139 --> 00:04:24,550 the officers obtained a pair of 70 00:04:21,939 --> 00:04:26,589 binoculars and studied the object 71 00:04:24,550 --> 00:04:29,110 through them and saw that the object was 72 00:04:26,589 --> 00:04:32,289 circular in shape and in the middle with 73 00:04:29,110 --> 00:04:33,879 a dome on the top and underneath the 74 00:04:32,290 --> 00:04:36,189 middle of the object had blue lights 75 00:04:33,879 --> 00:04:38,889 around the middle and red pink lights on 76 00:04:36,189 --> 00:04:40,750 the extreme right of the middle dome on 77 00:04:38,889 --> 00:04:43,120 the top and blue and white flashing 78 00:04:40,750 --> 00:04:47,319 lights the dome underneath was blue 79 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:50,079 green and red pink white flat with white 80 00:04:47,319 --> 00:04:52,810 flashes they observed this object for an 81 00:04:50,079 --> 00:04:55,029 hour and during this time the object 82 00:04:52,810 --> 00:04:58,420 moved erratically from one side to the 83 00:04:55,029 --> 00:05:01,029 other up and down and to and fro not 84 00:04:58,420 --> 00:05:05,949 venturing far from its original position 85 00:05:01,029 --> 00:05:08,619 in this case by the way ended with the 86 00:05:05,949 --> 00:05:11,889 object zipping towards the people who 87 00:05:08,620 --> 00:05:15,459 had gathered there to see the object you 88 00:05:11,889 --> 00:05:18,939 know and it makes light and it was gone 89 00:05:15,459 --> 00:05:21,339 and this is part of an official police 90 00:05:18,939 --> 00:05:26,019 report which was released by the British 91 00:05:21,339 --> 00:05:28,449 National Archives in 2008 something that 92 00:05:26,019 --> 00:05:32,859 we never hear on the mass media at least 93 00:05:28,449 --> 00:05:36,129 not in Germany when it comes to UFOs ask 94 00:05:32,860 --> 00:05:44,040 yourself which natural phenomenon could 95 00:05:36,129 --> 00:05:49,629 be responsible for this as for Germany 96 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:52,629 UFOs officially don't exist in Germany 97 00:05:49,629 --> 00:05:54,370 you see what you see here is a picture 98 00:05:52,629 --> 00:05:57,939 of a Minister of Interior interior 99 00:05:54,370 --> 00:06:00,310 interior interior fairs he says there is 100 00:05:57,939 --> 00:06:02,680 no federal authority or institution that 101 00:06:00,310 --> 00:06:04,750 registers evaluates or deals with 102 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,970 alleged sightings of unknown flying 103 00:06:04,750 --> 00:06:08,800 objects so he doesn't even have the 104 00:06:06,970 --> 00:06:12,040 definition right because it's not 105 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:14,350 unknown flying object actually if we 106 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:17,620 think about the definition unknown 107 00:06:14,350 --> 00:06:20,360 flying or unidentified flying object 108 00:06:17,620 --> 00:06:23,329 it is a definition that actually doesn't 109 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:25,370 say anything because to be honest we 110 00:06:23,329 --> 00:06:28,729 don't know anything about these objects 111 00:06:25,370 --> 00:06:32,500 we I mean we do know some things about 112 00:06:28,730 --> 00:06:35,629 them you know it's unidentified flying 113 00:06:32,500 --> 00:06:38,540 object we don't know whether it's an 114 00:06:35,629 --> 00:06:41,269 object because some of these things seem 115 00:06:38,540 --> 00:06:46,160 to be intelligent plasma life-forms 116 00:06:41,269 --> 00:06:48,560 which do not have a sharp structure and 117 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:50,930 we don't know whether they are flying or 118 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:53,000 floating or just appearing in the sky 119 00:06:50,930 --> 00:06:57,740 the only thing that we know about these 120 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:58,970 objects is that they are unidentified so 121 00:06:57,740 --> 00:07:04,490 in Germany 122 00:06:58,970 --> 00:07:06,860 unlike in in many other countries UFOs 123 00:07:04,490 --> 00:07:09,379 is not a topic that you can discuss at 124 00:07:06,860 --> 00:07:11,389 all it's not like in other countries 125 00:07:09,379 --> 00:07:13,670 where you have files or anything where 126 00:07:11,389 --> 00:07:16,069 you have the Ministry of Defense or the 127 00:07:13,670 --> 00:07:21,160 National Archive releasing files you 128 00:07:16,069 --> 00:07:23,810 have nothing you have ridicule you have 129 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:26,390 well your your your career as a 130 00:07:23,810 --> 00:07:28,610 scientists is very likely to end when 131 00:07:26,389 --> 00:07:33,079 you start to engage in the subject of 132 00:07:28,610 --> 00:07:35,960 UFOs that is why I'm so happy to to have 133 00:07:33,079 --> 00:07:38,349 the chance to to present this case here 134 00:07:35,959 --> 00:07:41,479 at the University of Anand Purcell 135 00:07:38,350 --> 00:07:43,280 sometimes there are members of the 136 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:45,439 German Bundestag which is the Federal 137 00:07:43,279 --> 00:07:48,769 Parliament the highest Parliament in 138 00:07:45,439 --> 00:07:50,480 Germany who are interested in in the 139 00:07:48,769 --> 00:07:52,699 subject and then they ask questions like 140 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:56,060 this this is an official inquiry to the 141 00:07:52,699 --> 00:07:57,920 German government from 2009 how the 142 00:07:56,060 --> 00:08:00,850 federal government estimates the 143 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:03,560 probability that there is intelligent if 144 00:08:00,850 --> 00:08:05,990 extraterrestrial life and how does the 145 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:08,209 the German federal government estimate 146 00:08:05,990 --> 00:08:10,819 the probability that extraterrestrials 147 00:08:08,209 --> 00:08:14,539 might land on German territory one day 148 00:08:10,819 --> 00:08:17,269 and here's the answer from the German 149 00:08:14,540 --> 00:08:19,340 government the German federal government 150 00:08:17,269 --> 00:08:21,889 does not have any knowledge which would 151 00:08:19,339 --> 00:08:23,949 allow to estimate the probability of the 152 00:08:21,889 --> 00:08:27,409 reality of extraterrestrial life 153 00:08:23,949 --> 00:08:30,500 however given current scientific 154 00:08:27,410 --> 00:08:31,199 knowledge the likelihood of a landing of 155 00:08:30,500 --> 00:08:34,440 extra 156 00:08:31,199 --> 00:08:40,829 on German territory is considered out of 157 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:43,099 the question out of the question so I 158 00:08:40,828 --> 00:08:45,870 have to tell you honestly you know when 159 00:08:43,099 --> 00:08:47,910 every four years when I go to the year 160 00:08:45,870 --> 00:08:50,730 to the elections and I make my cross 161 00:08:47,909 --> 00:08:53,338 somewhere you know I just I do trust 162 00:08:50,730 --> 00:08:55,110 that the people that I elect that they 163 00:08:53,339 --> 00:08:57,779 are in the loop that they know what they 164 00:08:55,110 --> 00:09:01,500 are talking about but obviously in this 165 00:08:57,778 --> 00:09:02,700 case it's not so it's not the case they 166 00:09:01,500 --> 00:09:06,089 don't know what they're talking about 167 00:09:02,700 --> 00:09:07,949 they they are just not you know they 168 00:09:06,089 --> 00:09:10,949 refer to this to the current scientific 169 00:09:07,948 --> 00:09:16,259 knowledge and they have no clue look at 170 00:09:10,948 --> 00:09:19,588 this a CIA document from 1952 openly 171 00:09:16,259 --> 00:09:21,419 discussing a UFO landing in Germany in 172 00:09:19,589 --> 00:09:23,490 East Germany by the way where I was born 173 00:09:21,419 --> 00:09:27,740 in the Communist part of Germany East 174 00:09:23,490 --> 00:09:31,019 Germany so this landing or cured 175 00:09:27,740 --> 00:09:34,500 occurred on the on the east out of the 176 00:09:31,019 --> 00:09:38,429 German German border in 1952 a former 177 00:09:34,500 --> 00:09:41,820 mayor of a small town in in cheering and 178 00:09:38,429 --> 00:09:45,389 as a state of cheering and he witnessed 179 00:09:41,820 --> 00:09:48,209 together with his daughter something 180 00:09:45,389 --> 00:09:54,120 that he described like a landed frying 181 00:09:48,208 --> 00:09:56,969 pan he saw beings they approached the 182 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:58,740 object slowly carefully they didn't want 183 00:09:56,970 --> 00:10:02,850 to be seen by these beings they 184 00:09:58,740 --> 00:10:04,528 approached the object then there was a 185 00:10:02,850 --> 00:10:09,149 crack from behind because the daughter 186 00:10:04,528 --> 00:10:11,338 made some noise that the beings saw mr. 187 00:10:09,149 --> 00:10:13,769 óscar linka that's his name and his 188 00:10:11,339 --> 00:10:17,519 daughter and they jumped into their 189 00:10:13,769 --> 00:10:20,549 craft the craft lifted up and it you 190 00:10:17,519 --> 00:10:23,159 know it zipped away and this is what the 191 00:10:20,549 --> 00:10:24,149 CIA document talks about in 19th back in 192 00:10:23,159 --> 00:10:27,269 1952 193 00:10:24,149 --> 00:10:31,259 so how come German government says in 194 00:10:27,269 --> 00:10:33,000 2009 so many years later that they 195 00:10:31,259 --> 00:10:35,909 considered it out of the question that 196 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:39,019 they would ever occur a landing of UFOs 197 00:10:35,909 --> 00:10:39,019 on German territory 198 00:10:40,070 --> 00:10:44,540 if there's really life in the universe 199 00:10:42,828 --> 00:10:47,929 other life wouldn't our scientists 200 00:10:44,539 --> 00:10:52,458 already have discovered it meet 201 00:10:47,929 --> 00:10:55,519 professor Frank Drake do you know him 202 00:10:52,458 --> 00:10:58,958 Frank Reich do you know is he's the 203 00:10:55,519 --> 00:11:02,299 senior as senior astrophysicist and 204 00:10:58,958 --> 00:11:04,719 founder of this of the SETI project 205 00:11:02,299 --> 00:11:09,649 search for extraterrestrial intelligence 206 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:13,569 he's also the founder of the Drake 207 00:11:09,649 --> 00:11:17,360 Equation and this is the Drake Equation 208 00:11:13,568 --> 00:11:20,389 the Drake Equation is an equation where 209 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:26,509 you can insert the most conservative as 210 00:11:20,389 --> 00:11:28,579 four physical variables numbers in order 211 00:11:26,509 --> 00:11:31,490 to estimate the number of civilizations 212 00:11:28,578 --> 00:11:34,370 in our galaxy which might be advanced 213 00:11:31,490 --> 00:11:37,370 enough to be in contact with us to 214 00:11:34,370 --> 00:11:40,310 communicate with us so you have the 215 00:11:37,370 --> 00:11:43,159 number of planets you know their the the 216 00:11:40,309 --> 00:11:46,909 distance to their star that the planet 217 00:11:43,159 --> 00:11:50,078 goes per circles around you know and if 218 00:11:46,909 --> 00:11:53,870 you put all of these all of the most I 219 00:11:50,078 --> 00:11:57,318 meet the most conservative Astrophysical 220 00:11:53,870 --> 00:12:00,709 variables that that astrophysics knows 221 00:11:57,318 --> 00:12:05,088 if you put them into this equation and 222 00:12:00,708 --> 00:12:09,289 you make the calculation then the result 223 00:12:05,089 --> 00:12:11,510 is at best there are 150 communicating 224 00:12:09,289 --> 00:12:16,278 civilizations in our galaxies in our 225 00:12:11,509 --> 00:12:19,610 galaxy and at least one that's only in 226 00:12:16,278 --> 00:12:23,509 our galaxy the Milky Way so there are 227 00:12:19,610 --> 00:12:26,379 many galaxies in the universe so you see 228 00:12:23,509 --> 00:12:28,879 the probability just from the 229 00:12:26,379 --> 00:12:30,980 conservative scientific point of view 230 00:12:28,879 --> 00:12:34,399 the probability that there is 231 00:12:30,980 --> 00:12:36,319 intelligent extraterrestrial life which 232 00:12:34,399 --> 00:12:41,230 could engage in communication with 233 00:12:36,318 --> 00:12:41,229 mankind is practically 100% 234 00:12:42,589 --> 00:12:50,339 now this this result encouraged mr. 235 00:12:46,860 --> 00:12:52,310 Drake professor Drake and his team to 236 00:12:50,339 --> 00:12:55,440 try to communicate with the 237 00:12:52,309 --> 00:12:58,979 extraterrestrials themselves and back in 238 00:12:55,440 --> 00:13:00,899 the 60s they started a program search 239 00:12:58,980 --> 00:13:03,959 for extraterrestrial intelligence and 240 00:13:00,899 --> 00:13:07,919 they send a message from this radio 241 00:13:03,958 --> 00:13:11,129 telescope it is a huge telescope this is 242 00:13:07,919 --> 00:13:13,379 300 meters diameter as you can see it's 243 00:13:11,129 --> 00:13:16,860 a huge telescope and they use this 244 00:13:13,379 --> 00:13:18,659 telescope to send a binary message this 245 00:13:16,860 --> 00:13:21,149 is the binary message I've just 246 00:13:18,659 --> 00:13:26,100 explained it to you shortly it consists 247 00:13:21,149 --> 00:13:27,600 of 1679 binary units so binary is either 248 00:13:26,100 --> 00:13:36,209 0 or 1 249 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:40,379 ok and 1679 is the product of 23 times 250 00:13:36,208 --> 00:13:42,448 73 so these are 2 prime numbers so the 251 00:13:40,379 --> 00:13:47,039 so the scheme that you get when you 252 00:13:42,448 --> 00:13:49,649 divide you can only divide 1679 by 23 or 253 00:13:47,039 --> 00:13:52,828 73 and you will you will receive this 254 00:13:49,649 --> 00:13:56,399 pattern ok this grid so let's say this 255 00:13:52,828 --> 00:14:00,809 is 0 and this is a1 and in this thing 256 00:13:56,399 --> 00:14:04,470 they encoded the numbers from 1 atomic 257 00:14:00,809 --> 00:14:06,419 numbers of key biological elements per 258 00:14:04,470 --> 00:14:10,528 formula chemical formula for sugar and 259 00:14:06,419 --> 00:14:13,019 basis of our DNA nucleotides DNA double 260 00:14:10,528 --> 00:14:14,879 helix as you can see maybe the most 261 00:14:13,019 --> 00:14:18,350 prominent feature is the human shape 262 00:14:14,879 --> 00:14:23,189 just to you know to show how we look 263 00:14:18,350 --> 00:14:26,879 like what you know what's the shape of 264 00:14:23,190 --> 00:14:29,100 the Earthlings you can even see here 265 00:14:26,879 --> 00:14:31,528 this is the solar system with nine 266 00:14:29,100 --> 00:14:33,778 planets with the earth highlighted as 267 00:14:31,528 --> 00:14:38,129 the third planet from the Sun you know 268 00:14:33,778 --> 00:14:40,769 and this is the Arecibo telescope which 269 00:14:38,129 --> 00:14:42,958 which is which is also encoded in this 270 00:14:40,769 --> 00:14:47,578 message to show the extraterrestrials 271 00:14:42,958 --> 00:14:49,379 what the thing we used in order to send 272 00:14:47,578 --> 00:14:51,969 the message 273 00:14:49,379 --> 00:14:53,919 and then they listened and they listened 274 00:14:51,970 --> 00:14:56,759 and they listened with their radio 275 00:14:53,919 --> 00:15:03,519 telescope and they did not receive 276 00:14:56,759 --> 00:15:06,490 anything not even one bit but in August 277 00:15:03,519 --> 00:15:10,090 of 2001 something interesting happened 278 00:15:06,490 --> 00:15:14,560 in England Chilbolton that's where all 279 00:15:10,090 --> 00:15:17,019 of these crop formations appear each 280 00:15:14,559 --> 00:15:18,579 year have you ever been to England have 281 00:15:17,019 --> 00:15:24,039 you ever seen the crop formations 282 00:15:18,580 --> 00:15:27,370 yourself yes this is impressing isn't it 283 00:15:24,039 --> 00:15:30,370 it's so impressing so this is where the 284 00:15:27,370 --> 00:15:33,129 crop formation a crop formation appeared 285 00:15:30,370 --> 00:15:36,100 right next to a radio telescope by the 286 00:15:33,129 --> 00:15:38,679 way and I found out that this radio 287 00:15:36,100 --> 00:15:41,620 telescope was even involved in the SETI 288 00:15:38,679 --> 00:15:44,379 project so it was even part of the SETI 289 00:15:41,620 --> 00:15:48,669 project and if we have a closer look on 290 00:15:44,379 --> 00:15:51,879 this crop formation you can see that it 291 00:15:48,669 --> 00:15:54,639 looks quite similar to the original 292 00:15:51,879 --> 00:15:58,240 message which you can see here the most 293 00:15:54,639 --> 00:16:03,509 prominent difference is of course the 294 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:08,039 figure the shape of this of these beings 295 00:16:03,509 --> 00:16:11,200 now what's interesting is also that they 296 00:16:08,039 --> 00:16:14,860 changed the the double helix now it's a 297 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:18,400 triple helix and it is based on silicon 298 00:16:14,860 --> 00:16:22,419 which is interesting because because 299 00:16:18,399 --> 00:16:25,990 recently scientists are thinking that 300 00:16:22,419 --> 00:16:28,029 life might also be based on silicon not 301 00:16:25,990 --> 00:16:31,240 just on carbon like on our planet but 302 00:16:28,029 --> 00:16:33,549 might be based the silicon as well so I 303 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:36,669 found this quite impressive you know I 304 00:16:33,549 --> 00:16:39,009 thought wow is this the answer is this 305 00:16:36,669 --> 00:16:41,529 probably the answer to what Professor 306 00:16:39,009 --> 00:16:45,429 Frank Drake had been looking for all the 307 00:16:41,529 --> 00:16:45,669 time you know and I was dying to ask him 308 00:16:45,429 --> 00:16:47,979 that 309 00:16:45,669 --> 00:16:50,589 because said he never actually said 310 00:16:47,980 --> 00:16:53,139 anything about this formation even 311 00:16:50,590 --> 00:16:55,840 though it was it was close to a radio 312 00:16:53,139 --> 00:17:00,069 telescope and even even though you can 313 00:16:55,840 --> 00:17:01,509 hardly deny that there is you know that 314 00:17:00,070 --> 00:17:05,620 it has something to do with 315 00:17:01,509 --> 00:17:07,420 you know so I was very happy that I had 316 00:17:05,619 --> 00:17:13,649 the chance to meet Frank Drake 317 00:17:07,420 --> 00:17:16,089 personally in May 2009 I sneaked into an 318 00:17:13,650 --> 00:17:19,360 astrophysics symposium at the University 319 00:17:16,088 --> 00:17:21,819 of Potsdam in Germany and I even managed 320 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:23,399 to brain professor Frank Drake in front 321 00:17:21,819 --> 00:17:28,259 of my camera which is now standing 322 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:31,300 behind there don't ask me how I did that 323 00:17:28,259 --> 00:17:34,089 and I asked him that I just wanted to 324 00:17:31,299 --> 00:17:37,299 know what is this answer that now here's 325 00:17:34,089 --> 00:17:39,329 his answer how do you know that an alien 326 00:17:37,299 --> 00:17:41,700 civilization would like to use a radio 327 00:17:39,329 --> 00:17:44,349 signal to communicate 328 00:17:41,700 --> 00:17:46,299 actually the universe has made it so 329 00:17:44,349 --> 00:17:48,669 that radio is the preferred method for 330 00:17:46,299 --> 00:17:51,399 interstellar communication and the 331 00:17:48,670 --> 00:17:53,830 reason for that is that in space there 332 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:56,470 are natural SOI sources of what we call 333 00:17:53,829 --> 00:17:59,859 noise or static which interfere with our 334 00:17:56,470 --> 00:18:01,990 communication systems and when that 335 00:17:59,859 --> 00:18:03,969 noise and Static is very intense it 336 00:18:01,990 --> 00:18:06,400 takes a much more powerful a larger and 337 00:18:03,970 --> 00:18:09,039 more expensive telescope to create a 338 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:12,160 communication link well it turns out the 339 00:18:09,039 --> 00:18:15,490 universe is darkest and quietest at the 340 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:17,529 radio wavelengths we call microwaves we 341 00:18:15,490 --> 00:18:19,170 know that the extraterrestrials will 342 00:18:17,529 --> 00:18:22,240 know that it's not hard to know this and 343 00:18:19,170 --> 00:18:24,279 they like us will exploit these 344 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:27,160 frequencies for very long distance 345 00:18:24,279 --> 00:18:29,529 communication all of our communications 346 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:32,470 to spacecraft for instance are you done 347 00:18:29,529 --> 00:18:34,269 using microwave wavelengths the 348 00:18:32,470 --> 00:18:37,240 transmission of television programs to 349 00:18:34,269 --> 00:18:40,000 people's homes from satellites are set 350 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:42,490 on these same wavelengths because the 351 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:44,799 you can get the signals with a small 352 00:18:42,490 --> 00:18:46,569 dish on your house and that doesn't take 353 00:18:44,799 --> 00:18:50,379 much power from the satellite to send 354 00:18:46,569 --> 00:18:55,839 the transmission to television programs 355 00:18:50,380 --> 00:18:59,130 to you so that's why we favor searching 356 00:18:55,839 --> 00:19:01,009 for signals at the microwave wavelengths 357 00:18:59,130 --> 00:19:04,580 first 358 00:19:01,009 --> 00:19:06,740 we can detect the messages they use for 359 00:19:04,579 --> 00:19:08,449 their own purposes more easily there 360 00:19:06,740 --> 00:19:10,308 because the universe is dark and doesn't 361 00:19:08,450 --> 00:19:12,440 interfere secondly if they are 362 00:19:10,308 --> 00:19:14,720 intentionally sending us signals they 363 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:18,169 will use these frequency bands because 364 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:19,819 they will know that that's those are the 365 00:19:18,169 --> 00:19:22,250 bands where their signals will be most 366 00:19:19,819 --> 00:19:26,298 detectable and where we're likely to be 367 00:19:22,250 --> 00:19:28,849 searching now there are some people who 368 00:19:26,298 --> 00:19:31,849 say that the answer to the Arecibo 369 00:19:28,849 --> 00:19:34,129 message might have already actually come 370 00:19:31,849 --> 00:19:41,000 back to her I don't know if you've heard 371 00:19:34,130 --> 00:19:44,480 of this this is a formation that that 372 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:47,690 that appeared in 2001 near radio 373 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:52,220 telescope in England and there is there 374 00:19:47,690 --> 00:19:57,140 is more detail with the one here and I 375 00:19:52,220 --> 00:20:03,769 meant also this is this is some private 376 00:19:57,140 --> 00:20:05,990 researcher in the camera let's compare 377 00:20:03,769 --> 00:20:11,539 that now that it's really interesting to 378 00:20:05,990 --> 00:20:14,089 note that if you if you see the red you 379 00:20:11,539 --> 00:20:15,769 see the the figure man 380 00:20:14,089 --> 00:20:19,879 they're great what do you think of that 381 00:20:15,769 --> 00:20:21,440 is it like an homage to your or do you 382 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:25,610 do you think it's possible that this is 383 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:27,980 this could possibly be a message to the 384 00:20:25,609 --> 00:20:29,808 answer to your message I think there is 385 00:20:27,980 --> 00:20:31,610 no chance whatsoever this is a 386 00:20:29,808 --> 00:20:34,129 legitimate message it's some kind of 387 00:20:31,609 --> 00:20:36,979 joke or or fun thing or maybe a 388 00:20:34,130 --> 00:20:41,390 challenge that somebody made to one 389 00:20:36,980 --> 00:20:43,700 another to somebody to do and their 390 00:20:41,390 --> 00:20:46,520 reasons two reasons for this good 391 00:20:43,700 --> 00:20:48,650 reasons one is the version of the 392 00:20:46,519 --> 00:20:54,410 message they have here which I'm about 393 00:20:48,650 --> 00:20:56,990 to hold up here that contains in it 394 00:20:54,410 --> 00:20:59,169 information that's clearly wrong such as 395 00:20:56,990 --> 00:21:01,970 the structure of the DNA molecule and 396 00:20:59,169 --> 00:21:03,980 some of the other parts of this message 397 00:21:01,970 --> 00:21:08,839 make no sense whatsoever or are 398 00:21:03,980 --> 00:21:10,740 chemically impossible the other is that 399 00:21:08,839 --> 00:21:14,609 as we saw on the original 400 00:21:10,740 --> 00:21:17,370 picture this message appeared about 100 401 00:21:14,609 --> 00:21:19,979 meters away from our radio telescope now 402 00:21:17,369 --> 00:21:23,189 if you had come to earth to deliver a 403 00:21:19,980 --> 00:21:24,870 message you would have gone to the door 404 00:21:23,190 --> 00:21:26,308 of the radio telescope and knocked on 405 00:21:24,869 --> 00:21:28,319 the door and given them up one of your 406 00:21:26,308 --> 00:21:30,450 books or something you wouldn't have 407 00:21:28,319 --> 00:21:32,428 gone out in the cornfield and spent a 408 00:21:30,450 --> 00:21:40,890 great deal of effort cutting down stalks 409 00:21:32,429 --> 00:21:42,660 of corn right you know well I what I do 410 00:21:40,890 --> 00:21:45,000 know is that they're intelligent yeah 411 00:21:42,660 --> 00:21:47,490 because they somehow got to earth if 412 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:49,349 this is really from an alien and they 413 00:21:47,490 --> 00:21:50,940 will know better than to try to 414 00:21:49,349 --> 00:21:55,139 communicate with humans in this 415 00:21:50,940 --> 00:21:58,230 ridiculous way so you see professor dr. 416 00:21:55,140 --> 00:22:00,660 Frank Drake has obviously traveled 417 00:21:58,230 --> 00:22:02,339 around a lot in the universe he has had 418 00:22:00,660 --> 00:22:07,529 breakfast with people from cetera 419 00:22:02,339 --> 00:22:10,889 ticularly you know he visited a pop 420 00:22:07,529 --> 00:22:13,440 concert a concert on Venus he talked to 421 00:22:10,890 --> 00:22:17,100 a lot of people in the universe because 422 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:19,769 otherwise he wouldn't be able to say how 423 00:22:17,099 --> 00:22:22,379 the extraterrestrials would communicate 424 00:22:19,769 --> 00:22:27,690 with humans right 425 00:22:22,380 --> 00:22:29,100 he said if these extraterrestrials if 426 00:22:27,690 --> 00:22:31,200 this message was really from 427 00:22:29,099 --> 00:22:33,359 extraterrestrials they wouldn't have 428 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:35,279 done this in the crop field they would 429 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:37,859 have gone to the door of the radio 430 00:22:35,279 --> 00:22:40,649 telescope knocked on the door and it 431 00:22:37,859 --> 00:22:48,419 would have given them a book of them or 432 00:22:40,650 --> 00:22:51,480 something that's what he said so but 433 00:22:48,420 --> 00:22:54,289 what we just saw is actually a 434 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:58,009 demonstration of anthropocentric 435 00:22:54,289 --> 00:23:01,289 behavior that's how we call it it's or 436 00:22:58,009 --> 00:23:04,410 otherwise you know if I can't imagine it 437 00:23:01,289 --> 00:23:07,259 I need I am human I cannot imagine that 438 00:23:04,410 --> 00:23:10,259 the extraterrestrials would communicate 439 00:23:07,259 --> 00:23:11,910 with us in this way if they want to 440 00:23:10,259 --> 00:23:15,929 communicate they have to communicate the 441 00:23:11,910 --> 00:23:18,720 way I imagine them to communicate you 442 00:23:15,929 --> 00:23:21,630 know and this is anthropocentric you 443 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:23,610 know we project our own imagination of 444 00:23:21,630 --> 00:23:26,100 what they should be like onto the 445 00:23:23,609 --> 00:23:28,979 extraterrestrials and that is why it 446 00:23:26,099 --> 00:23:35,339 seems to be so ridiculous or to put it 447 00:23:28,980 --> 00:23:38,610 in another way you know I think this is 448 00:23:35,339 --> 00:23:42,119 a little like the situation we have on 449 00:23:38,609 --> 00:23:45,479 our earth you know do you can you 450 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:49,678 imagine the the evolutionary difference 451 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:53,460 between a fish and a man you know the 452 00:23:49,679 --> 00:23:55,740 fish for the fish his world is round and 453 00:23:53,460 --> 00:23:58,919 perfect everything is great 454 00:23:55,740 --> 00:24:00,929 you know sometimes and also you know 455 00:23:58,919 --> 00:24:02,669 they swim around in circles in the in 456 00:24:00,929 --> 00:24:05,580 the fish tank there's why there was a 457 00:24:02,669 --> 00:24:08,070 silent this way you know it's like us on 458 00:24:05,579 --> 00:24:11,689 the earth you know we go to work every 459 00:24:08,069 --> 00:24:15,149 day we come back at home you know tired 460 00:24:11,690 --> 00:24:18,120 we see the world in 15 minutes 461 00:24:15,150 --> 00:24:19,860 TV world news report and then we go to 462 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:23,159 bed and the next morning the same thing 463 00:24:19,859 --> 00:24:25,529 again so did you by the way did you know 464 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:28,919 that fish is supposed to have a memory 465 00:24:25,529 --> 00:24:31,678 capacity of only two seconds so that 466 00:24:28,919 --> 00:24:34,230 means that you know the fish tank never 467 00:24:31,679 --> 00:24:36,630 becomes boring for the fish you know 468 00:24:34,230 --> 00:24:39,269 just does a circle and says oh since 469 00:24:36,630 --> 00:24:41,850 when is there a sign here Oh have you 470 00:24:39,269 --> 00:24:47,099 seen the sign before oh there's a sign 471 00:24:41,849 --> 00:24:49,230 look you know but sometimes one fish 472 00:24:47,099 --> 00:24:50,639 sticks its nose on the glass and says do 473 00:24:49,230 --> 00:24:53,400 you think there might be something else 474 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:56,730 out there and the other fish go up 475 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:58,890 come on go go keep on doing 476 00:24:56,730 --> 00:25:02,429 your circles and that's the situation on 477 00:24:58,890 --> 00:25:04,169 our planet but just to give you the 478 00:25:02,429 --> 00:25:07,640 context the universe that you the 479 00:25:04,169 --> 00:25:11,990 universal context just you know 480 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:15,690 according to conventional astrophysics 481 00:25:11,990 --> 00:25:20,099 conservative mainstream astrophysics the 482 00:25:15,690 --> 00:25:24,210 universe was created 13.7 billion years 483 00:25:20,099 --> 00:25:27,990 ago with a big explosion and it was 484 00:25:24,210 --> 00:25:31,079 there I don't I'm not going to dig into 485 00:25:27,990 --> 00:25:33,450 that but you can imagine that anyway so 486 00:25:31,079 --> 00:25:37,319 it took another couple of billion years 487 00:25:33,450 --> 00:25:42,000 until the earth formed 4.6 billion years 488 00:25:37,319 --> 00:25:44,819 ago and then from the development of the 489 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:48,259 earth 4.6 billion years ago until the 490 00:25:44,819 --> 00:25:53,700 appearance of intelligent life it took 491 00:25:48,259 --> 00:25:56,639 four point five nine eight billion years 492 00:25:53,700 --> 00:26:00,298 so the first intelligent life as we 493 00:25:56,638 --> 00:26:03,508 define it only appeared on earth two 494 00:26:00,298 --> 00:26:06,509 million years ago so just look at this 495 00:26:03,509 --> 00:26:09,210 vast difference of time you know earth 496 00:26:06,509 --> 00:26:11,788 formed 4.6 billion years ago but the 497 00:26:09,210 --> 00:26:15,028 universe is much older so that means 498 00:26:11,788 --> 00:26:17,398 that Earth could have formed another 499 00:26:15,028 --> 00:26:22,558 earth could have formed billions of 500 00:26:17,398 --> 00:26:25,819 years ago you know even farther in in in 501 00:26:22,558 --> 00:26:28,619 in the past and those beings could be 502 00:26:25,819 --> 00:26:30,808 evolved could have evolved much much 503 00:26:28,619 --> 00:26:32,689 more than we are evolved right now you 504 00:26:30,808 --> 00:26:36,538 know they could be billions of years 505 00:26:32,690 --> 00:26:39,778 ahead of our evolution and I once spoke 506 00:26:36,538 --> 00:26:42,450 to an astrophysicist who must not be 507 00:26:39,778 --> 00:26:45,329 named that's very interesting when I 508 00:26:42,450 --> 00:26:46,740 when when scientists call me and they 509 00:26:45,329 --> 00:26:49,230 and they stand there and they want to 510 00:26:46,740 --> 00:26:50,669 congratulate me and or say yeah I want 511 00:26:49,230 --> 00:26:52,740 to participate in the Exopolitics 512 00:26:50,669 --> 00:26:56,639 movement but the first thing to say is 513 00:26:52,740 --> 00:27:00,480 don't say a word don't say that I called 514 00:26:56,638 --> 00:27:03,119 you don't mention my name could cost me 515 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:07,500 my career my university career so he 516 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:12,209 said just imagine the evolutionary 517 00:27:07,500 --> 00:27:14,700 difference between us and something that 518 00:27:12,210 --> 00:27:17,639 is evolved 1 billion years ahead of us 519 00:27:14,700 --> 00:27:19,200 just try to imagine that it's impossible 520 00:27:17,638 --> 00:27:22,740 to imagine because we don't know where 521 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:25,889 we will be in 1 billion years but we can 522 00:27:22,740 --> 00:27:29,750 you know we can try to remember where we 523 00:27:25,888 --> 00:27:32,638 were 1 billion years ago and that was 524 00:27:29,750 --> 00:27:35,579 unicellular life forms that were 525 00:27:32,638 --> 00:27:39,240 swimming around in the in the soup you 526 00:27:35,579 --> 00:27:41,788 know it's like single-cell organisms now 527 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:44,370 imagine the evolutionary difference 528 00:27:41,788 --> 00:27:48,298 between a multicellular organism like 529 00:27:44,369 --> 00:27:51,109 the human being and a one cell organism 530 00:27:48,298 --> 00:27:53,329 that was floating around in 531 00:27:51,109 --> 00:27:55,819 in you know on the earth 1 billion years 532 00:27:53,329 --> 00:27:58,189 ago that is the evolutionary difference 533 00:27:55,819 --> 00:28:01,038 that we are talking about and then just 534 00:27:58,190 --> 00:28:03,950 imagine 1.5 billion years ago we learned 535 00:28:01,038 --> 00:28:08,690 how to control fire 6,000 years ago only 536 00:28:03,950 --> 00:28:10,880 we created the wheel 190 years ago we 537 00:28:08,690 --> 00:28:13,220 invented the light bulb Wow 538 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:17,870 now this is what we've been having for 539 00:28:13,220 --> 00:28:22,759 only 200 years 140 years ago we created 540 00:28:17,869 --> 00:28:25,879 the first telephone 115 years ago we 541 00:28:22,759 --> 00:28:31,638 invented the first rated the first radio 542 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:33,409 connection so that's interesting the 543 00:28:31,638 --> 00:28:35,538 first radio connection I'll come back to 544 00:28:33,409 --> 00:28:39,230 that later 180 years ago the first 545 00:28:35,538 --> 00:28:41,329 motorized plane worldwide only 70 years 546 00:28:39,230 --> 00:28:45,980 ago we invented the first computer in it 547 00:28:41,329 --> 00:28:52,388 only 50 years ago 50 years ago the first 548 00:28:45,980 --> 00:28:56,360 man went into space so can you imagine 549 00:28:52,388 --> 00:28:59,269 that an extraterrestrial being which 550 00:28:56,359 --> 00:29:04,189 might possibly be 1 billion years ahead 551 00:28:59,269 --> 00:29:07,548 in its evolution will use radio signals 552 00:29:04,190 --> 00:29:10,250 to communicate with us now that we have 553 00:29:07,548 --> 00:29:14,898 only been doing this for a hundred and 554 00:29:10,250 --> 00:29:17,329 fifteen years 115 years is nothing you 555 00:29:14,898 --> 00:29:19,548 know my grandmother didn't have a TV set 556 00:29:17,329 --> 00:29:22,069 and now and now we suspect that the 557 00:29:19,548 --> 00:29:26,028 aliens will communicate with us with 558 00:29:22,069 --> 00:29:29,329 radio signals you know it's like it's 559 00:29:26,028 --> 00:29:32,740 like the you know the the energetic 560 00:29:29,329 --> 00:29:35,808 people with their smoke signs you know 561 00:29:32,740 --> 00:29:39,079 do you think there is life beyond our 562 00:29:35,808 --> 00:29:40,879 mountain no if there was life beyond our 563 00:29:39,079 --> 00:29:45,648 Mountain day we would have seen two 564 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:47,419 smoke signs you know so this is just to 565 00:29:45,648 --> 00:29:49,819 put into perspective but I want to get 566 00:29:47,419 --> 00:29:52,278 to the facts where are the facts when we 567 00:29:49,819 --> 00:29:54,408 talk about extraterrestrial presence on 568 00:29:52,278 --> 00:29:56,960 earth because the extra-terrestrial 569 00:29:54,409 --> 00:29:58,519 presence on earth that you know assumes 570 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,740 quite a lot that they are here that 571 00:29:58,519 --> 00:30:02,659 they're intelligent you know and that we 572 00:30:00,740 --> 00:30:07,970 have proof well first first thing 573 00:30:02,659 --> 00:30:12,830 you need to know is that the UFO 574 00:30:07,970 --> 00:30:15,889 phenomenon has been documented often in 575 00:30:12,829 --> 00:30:18,079 classified documents classified files in 576 00:30:15,888 --> 00:30:21,288 18 countries worldwide 577 00:30:18,079 --> 00:30:23,269 by the military and by civilian 578 00:30:21,288 --> 00:30:30,848 authorities look these are all of the 579 00:30:23,269 --> 00:30:34,519 countries trying to find them 580 00:30:30,848 --> 00:30:37,189 these are 18 countries where the 581 00:30:34,519 --> 00:30:39,589 government or the military or civilian 582 00:30:37,190 --> 00:30:42,129 authorities have been dealing with this 583 00:30:39,589 --> 00:30:44,988 subject officially or unofficially as 584 00:30:42,128 --> 00:30:47,418 you can see the some of them are marked 585 00:30:44,989 --> 00:30:51,819 and blue some of them in this color and 586 00:30:47,419 --> 00:30:54,799 some of them are underlined and that is 587 00:30:51,819 --> 00:30:56,628 the underlined countries are the most 588 00:30:54,798 --> 00:30:59,089 interesting ones because this is where 589 00:30:56,628 --> 00:31:02,269 the UFO phenomenon has been dealt with 590 00:30:59,089 --> 00:31:05,689 by civilian authorities civilian 591 00:31:02,269 --> 00:31:08,450 authorities whereas in all the other 592 00:31:05,690 --> 00:31:13,239 countries the UFO phenomenon has been 593 00:31:08,450 --> 00:31:17,450 dealt with by the military classified 594 00:31:13,239 --> 00:31:19,909 secret and that is why the that is why 595 00:31:17,450 --> 00:31:23,419 the UFO phenomenon has never actually 596 00:31:19,909 --> 00:31:25,879 been except for some exceptions has 597 00:31:23,419 --> 00:31:29,749 never been has never found its way to 598 00:31:25,878 --> 00:31:32,628 the scientific world because scientists 599 00:31:29,749 --> 00:31:35,538 who want to deal with it they cannot 600 00:31:32,628 --> 00:31:38,439 overcome the obstacle of secrecy because 601 00:31:35,538 --> 00:31:41,089 it's secret they don't have the facts so 602 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:44,239 so it's only in two countries in three 603 00:31:41,089 --> 00:31:49,788 countries and the blue countries our 604 00:31:44,239 --> 00:31:52,038 NATO partners so NATO countries so if I 605 00:31:49,788 --> 00:31:54,489 mean Germany has been a NATO member an 606 00:31:52,038 --> 00:31:57,470 important member of the NATO actually 607 00:31:54,489 --> 00:32:00,379 for quite some time now so how come that 608 00:31:57,470 --> 00:32:02,690 Germany says that you know UFOs don't 609 00:32:00,378 --> 00:32:04,128 exist we don't deal with it if even 610 00:32:02,690 --> 00:32:06,259 their NATO partners have been dealing 611 00:32:04,128 --> 00:32:10,219 with it and release their formerly 612 00:32:06,259 --> 00:32:11,389 secret UFO documents so that's the first 613 00:32:10,220 --> 00:32:13,909 thing that you need to know it's a 614 00:32:11,388 --> 00:32:15,469 worldwide phenomenon the military 615 00:32:13,909 --> 00:32:17,929 worldwide has been the 616 00:32:15,470 --> 00:32:19,610 with it that's the first thing the 617 00:32:17,929 --> 00:32:23,419 second thing which is important to know 618 00:32:19,609 --> 00:32:26,089 though is what is an unidentified flying 619 00:32:23,419 --> 00:32:28,610 object because most people believe that 620 00:32:26,089 --> 00:32:31,459 an unidentified flying object is some 621 00:32:28,609 --> 00:32:34,069 light in the sky that my grandma sees 622 00:32:31,460 --> 00:32:36,500 from her balcony and she automatically 623 00:32:34,069 --> 00:32:39,980 thinks that wow there's a light in the 624 00:32:36,500 --> 00:32:44,419 sky must be an alien spaceship this is 625 00:32:39,980 --> 00:32:46,009 not so an unidentified flying object and 626 00:32:44,419 --> 00:32:48,288 I think this is the definition from J 627 00:32:46,009 --> 00:32:51,769 Allen Hynek we are very happy to have a 628 00:32:48,288 --> 00:32:55,990 former member of his working staff here 629 00:32:51,769 --> 00:32:58,038 with us is something which cannot be 630 00:32:55,990 --> 00:32:59,839 attributed to any conventional 631 00:32:58,038 --> 00:33:02,150 explanation even after careful 632 00:32:59,839 --> 00:33:04,639 examination by experts civilian or 633 00:33:02,150 --> 00:33:07,269 military scientists so it is something 634 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:11,990 that has been that has already been 635 00:33:07,269 --> 00:33:16,038 analyzed by scientists and still lacks 636 00:33:11,990 --> 00:33:18,319 any conventional explanation and we are 637 00:33:16,038 --> 00:33:19,069 talking about cases with physical 638 00:33:18,319 --> 00:33:22,058 evidence 639 00:33:19,069 --> 00:33:24,589 landing traces we are talking about 640 00:33:22,058 --> 00:33:27,230 plants that have been altered in their 641 00:33:24,589 --> 00:33:29,119 composition we think we talk about 642 00:33:27,230 --> 00:33:31,610 things that you can measure there is a 643 00:33:29,119 --> 00:33:34,639 very important case in Great Britain the 644 00:33:31,609 --> 00:33:36,740 ranch in Forrest case I was there a 645 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:40,159 couple of months ago I talked to the 646 00:33:36,740 --> 00:33:43,940 witnesses and visited the landing site 647 00:33:40,159 --> 00:33:46,520 the the military the the military 648 00:33:43,940 --> 00:33:48,890 intelligence service took radiation 649 00:33:46,519 --> 00:33:52,308 readings at the landing site now this is 650 00:33:48,890 --> 00:33:54,110 what I call physical evidence this these 651 00:33:52,308 --> 00:33:57,798 are things which really point to the 652 00:33:54,109 --> 00:34:01,629 reality of the true phenomenon and then 653 00:33:57,798 --> 00:34:09,409 okay I have another 10 minutes so I will 654 00:34:01,630 --> 00:34:11,750 jump over this video another thing that 655 00:34:09,409 --> 00:34:14,179 you have to know is that the military 656 00:34:11,750 --> 00:34:16,309 worldwide not just the US military but 657 00:34:14,179 --> 00:34:20,179 this is just an example has been aware 658 00:34:16,309 --> 00:34:22,940 of the reality of a real phenomenon from 659 00:34:20,179 --> 00:34:26,329 the very beginning this is a very 660 00:34:22,940 --> 00:34:27,070 important and very famous memo also it's 661 00:34:26,329 --> 00:34:29,860 from the 9th 662 00:34:27,070 --> 00:34:33,250 50s written by the the former head of 663 00:34:29,860 --> 00:34:36,190 use or US Joint Chiefs of Staff so he 664 00:34:33,250 --> 00:34:39,039 was the the highest ranking officer at 665 00:34:36,190 --> 00:34:43,510 all in the United States so look what he 666 00:34:39,039 --> 00:34:47,440 wrote he said the phenomenon reported is 667 00:34:43,510 --> 00:34:51,490 something real not visionary or 668 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:53,429 fictitious and he describes exactly what 669 00:34:51,489 --> 00:34:57,489 it looks like look here 670 00:34:53,429 --> 00:35:01,149 metallic light reflecting surfaces you 671 00:34:57,489 --> 00:35:05,279 know and he goes on to describe the 672 00:35:01,150 --> 00:35:08,410 phenomenon it's disc shaped domed on top 673 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:10,630 circular look at point three circular or 674 00:35:08,409 --> 00:35:12,759 elliptical in shape flat on the bottom 675 00:35:10,630 --> 00:35:16,780 and domed on top but they are also of 676 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:19,180 course many other forms of UFOs they 677 00:35:16,780 --> 00:35:23,019 have been flying information normally 678 00:35:19,179 --> 00:35:27,819 not associated with any sound and so on 679 00:35:23,019 --> 00:35:32,440 and look at this what you see here is a 680 00:35:27,820 --> 00:35:36,400 great radar radar trace of a UFO on 681 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:39,090 Swiss military radar I have this from a 682 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:41,139 friend of mine who's head of MUFON 683 00:35:39,090 --> 00:35:46,180 Central Europe I mean he's the head of 684 00:35:41,139 --> 00:35:51,969 MUFON Europe and he got this from the 685 00:35:46,179 --> 00:35:54,579 Swiss military this is an unidentified 686 00:35:51,969 --> 00:35:58,239 flying object which was flying around 687 00:35:54,579 --> 00:36:00,549 over Switzerland with approximately 240 688 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:03,609 kilometers per hour but he did not have 689 00:36:00,550 --> 00:36:06,160 a transponder signature did not have a 690 00:36:03,610 --> 00:36:08,440 transponder you know so the radio 691 00:36:06,159 --> 00:36:11,019 operators the military radar operators 692 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:13,179 try to find out what is this object and 693 00:36:11,019 --> 00:36:17,889 why are they were trying to find out 694 00:36:13,179 --> 00:36:21,639 what is this object the object increased 695 00:36:17,889 --> 00:36:25,960 its speeds at Mac for Mac for Mac for 696 00:36:21,639 --> 00:36:32,259 and does a right-angle a sharp right 697 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:33,550 angle turn at Mach 4 now do you want to 698 00:36:32,260 --> 00:36:36,880 try this 699 00:36:33,550 --> 00:36:39,039 when I mean you can hardly reach Mach 4 700 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:44,349 with your car on the on the highway you 701 00:36:39,039 --> 00:36:46,329 can try it you can try it at 80 km/h you 702 00:36:44,349 --> 00:36:49,119 know what would happen if you try to 703 00:36:46,329 --> 00:36:57,039 drive a right-angle turn with your car 704 00:36:49,119 --> 00:37:00,339 at 80 km/h what would happen you better 705 00:36:57,039 --> 00:37:02,199 don't try it you know because your car 706 00:37:00,340 --> 00:37:03,940 would crash because there is something 707 00:37:02,199 --> 00:37:07,000 that we do this is a natural law mass 708 00:37:03,940 --> 00:37:09,039 inertia law you know the mass that you 709 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:11,079 have set in motion wants to proceed in 710 00:37:09,039 --> 00:37:13,230 the direction that it took when you 711 00:37:11,079 --> 00:37:15,489 started the movement so you cannot just 712 00:37:13,230 --> 00:37:18,400 change the direction at a right angle 713 00:37:15,489 --> 00:37:23,529 turn at 80 kilometers let alone at Mach 714 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:26,760 4 so don't try this you know don't try 715 00:37:23,530 --> 00:37:29,769 this at home don't try this in your car 716 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:31,360 you can you can you can recommend your 717 00:37:29,769 --> 00:37:33,219 neighbor that you don't like to do it 718 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:37,420 but you shouldn't do it yourself 719 00:37:33,219 --> 00:37:40,869 honestly so you know how is it possible 720 00:37:37,420 --> 00:37:42,970 this is against the natural laws of this 721 00:37:40,869 --> 00:37:47,759 planet that our mainstream science 722 00:37:42,969 --> 00:37:49,919 considers right so how is that possible 723 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:56,410 another thing you should know is that 724 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:57,970 there are 1423 real UFO cases in the 725 00:37:56,409 --> 00:38:01,000 sense of the definition I gave before 726 00:37:57,969 --> 00:38:03,009 and when we talk about Evans improve for 727 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:05,199 expert for for the UFO phenomena you 728 00:38:03,010 --> 00:38:08,380 know is it scientifically proven that 729 00:38:05,199 --> 00:38:11,319 there is a real UFO phenomenon you have 730 00:38:08,380 --> 00:38:14,320 to to consider or to think about the way 731 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:16,809 we define a proof what is the proof you 732 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:22,090 can of course do a mathematical proof 733 00:38:16,809 --> 00:38:25,210 you can say one plus one equals two two 734 00:38:22,090 --> 00:38:27,519 minus one equals one quote erat 735 00:38:25,210 --> 00:38:29,470 demonstrandum yeah so this is a 736 00:38:27,519 --> 00:38:32,980 mathematical proof that everybody can do 737 00:38:29,469 --> 00:38:35,619 but you cannot just prove the existence 738 00:38:32,980 --> 00:38:41,050 of something because a proof in the in 739 00:38:35,619 --> 00:38:44,710 the judicial criminal court trial for 740 00:38:41,050 --> 00:38:46,990 example can only be composed by what can 741 00:38:44,710 --> 00:38:49,119 only be formed by a judge with 742 00:38:46,989 --> 00:38:52,569 who has been authorized by some 743 00:38:49,119 --> 00:38:57,400 Authority by somebody who is entitled to 744 00:38:52,570 --> 00:39:00,580 be the judge entitled to do to form the 745 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:04,090 proof and the judge takes the the 746 00:39:00,579 --> 00:39:06,579 evidence of evidence and he constructs 747 00:39:04,090 --> 00:39:10,260 on the basis of this pieces of evidence 748 00:39:06,579 --> 00:39:14,799 he constructs the the proof which is 749 00:39:10,260 --> 00:39:17,560 valid in court so there is a problem 750 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:20,590 however if nobody makes a trial if 751 00:39:17,559 --> 00:39:23,259 nobody really engages in you know if 752 00:39:20,590 --> 00:39:26,380 there is no Authority which really looks 753 00:39:23,260 --> 00:39:30,000 at the UFL evidence then there can be 754 00:39:26,380 --> 00:39:33,130 nobody you can construct a valid proof 755 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:36,929 but in this case it still it is 756 00:39:33,130 --> 00:39:41,230 scientifically proven yes because for 757 00:39:36,929 --> 00:39:44,859 national sponsored research projects 758 00:39:41,230 --> 00:39:48,340 have been undertaken in this regard so 759 00:39:44,860 --> 00:39:53,670 they they were they have been entitled 760 00:39:48,340 --> 00:39:56,920 by the government so they they collected 761 00:39:53,670 --> 00:39:58,659 1423 cases which are true true 762 00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:01,349 unidentified flying objects with 763 00:39:58,659 --> 00:40:05,349 physical landing traces and all of this 764 00:40:01,349 --> 00:40:08,739 so it must be said very clearly that the 765 00:40:05,349 --> 00:40:14,799 existence of a real UFO phenomenon is 766 00:40:08,739 --> 00:40:17,949 scientifically proven dot you should 767 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:21,730 also know that germany's neighboring 768 00:40:17,949 --> 00:40:23,829 country france has its own is one of the 769 00:40:21,730 --> 00:40:26,409 countries where ufos 770 00:40:23,829 --> 00:40:29,949 are investigated by a civilian Authority 771 00:40:26,409 --> 00:40:32,469 it is investigated by the Sanwa 772 00:40:29,949 --> 00:40:36,449 nationality to speciale which is the 773 00:40:32,469 --> 00:40:38,739 French Space Agency and it is a 774 00:40:36,449 --> 00:40:42,039 Department of them which is the group 775 00:40:38,739 --> 00:40:44,489 the the the study are to say in French 776 00:40:42,039 --> 00:40:46,779 first group de toutes in información 777 00:40:44,489 --> 00:40:49,959 information's surely fellow men I almost 778 00:40:46,780 --> 00:40:54,730 as you know need motive here so it's the 779 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:56,809 study study and information group for 780 00:40:54,730 --> 00:40:59,789 unidentified aerial 781 00:40:56,809 --> 00:41:02,548 it's a it's a national authority of a 782 00:40:59,789 --> 00:41:05,309 national official body and look this is 783 00:41:02,548 --> 00:41:08,130 the number of cases they have published 784 00:41:05,309 --> 00:41:09,778 in back in 2010 and this is a very 785 00:41:08,130 --> 00:41:11,608 interesting chart because you can see 786 00:41:09,778 --> 00:41:15,170 that they make a difference between 787 00:41:11,608 --> 00:41:17,880 phenomena which are perfectly identified 788 00:41:15,170 --> 00:41:19,499 perfectly identified so somebody sees 789 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,358 the light and they say okay that was a 790 00:41:19,498 --> 00:41:23,998 meteor we found it out so that's 791 00:41:21,358 --> 00:41:26,400 perfectly identified then they have the 792 00:41:23,998 --> 00:41:28,909 phenomena which are probably identified 793 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:32,700 they said most probably it was a meteor 794 00:41:28,909 --> 00:41:36,538 then they have this Class C it's 37 795 00:41:32,699 --> 00:41:41,368 percent of phenomena little TV habla 796 00:41:36,539 --> 00:41:43,799 that among the donee so they these are 797 00:41:41,369 --> 00:41:46,759 phenomena which are not identifiable 798 00:41:43,798 --> 00:41:49,199 because they have not enough data to 799 00:41:46,759 --> 00:41:52,559 analyze it and to find out what it was 800 00:41:49,199 --> 00:41:55,588 and then there is a remaining fourth 801 00:41:52,559 --> 00:41:59,509 thing and that is phenomenally dodaf you 802 00:41:55,588 --> 00:42:02,159 the the truly unidentified phenomenon 803 00:41:59,509 --> 00:42:05,309 but what's important to note though is 804 00:42:02,159 --> 00:42:08,578 that these phenomena are not classified 805 00:42:05,309 --> 00:42:11,278 as non identified for lack of data 806 00:42:08,579 --> 00:42:13,710 because they didn't have enough data but 807 00:42:11,278 --> 00:42:16,338 because they did have all the data 808 00:42:13,710 --> 00:42:18,298 because otherwise it would be this 809 00:42:16,338 --> 00:42:20,788 classification they did have all the 810 00:42:18,298 --> 00:42:24,449 data and it was still at an unidentified 811 00:42:20,789 --> 00:42:28,259 and that's 22% and the news chart shows 812 00:42:24,449 --> 00:42:31,259 23 percent and maybe you have heard of 813 00:42:28,259 --> 00:42:32,759 this report back in 1999 it's a 814 00:42:31,259 --> 00:42:35,849 three-year military study of 815 00:42:32,759 --> 00:42:39,690 high-ranking French officials look there 816 00:42:35,849 --> 00:42:41,670 are three generals the forward actually 817 00:42:39,690 --> 00:42:43,318 written by the former director of the 818 00:42:41,670 --> 00:42:45,778 high studies institute for national 819 00:42:43,318 --> 00:42:49,048 defense so I don't know if I translated 820 00:42:45,778 --> 00:42:54,929 that correctly it's the us teach you the 821 00:42:49,048 --> 00:42:58,559 Zoot C to D Falls Nacional several 822 00:42:54,929 --> 00:43:00,419 pilots civilian military pilots the 823 00:42:58,559 --> 00:43:05,940 commander of the Rhondda many national 824 00:43:00,420 --> 00:43:08,700 and they had this three-year military 825 00:43:05,940 --> 00:43:09,599 report with the title UFOs and the 826 00:43:08,699 --> 00:43:13,078 defense 827 00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:15,088 what do we have to prepare for so do you 828 00:43:13,079 --> 00:43:17,190 really believe that that military 829 00:43:15,088 --> 00:43:20,608 experts would undertake a three-year 830 00:43:17,190 --> 00:43:25,108 military study for a natural phenomenon 831 00:43:20,608 --> 00:43:26,489 for sky letters or something and they 832 00:43:25,108 --> 00:43:29,338 would and they would call their report 833 00:43:26,489 --> 00:43:34,289 UFOs and the defense and these are some 834 00:43:29,338 --> 00:43:38,219 of their conclusions okay there's got to 835 00:43:34,289 --> 00:43:41,959 be difficult translate from one foreign 836 00:43:38,219 --> 00:43:46,278 language into the other foreign language 837 00:43:41,958 --> 00:43:53,159 these objects or the the phenomenon 838 00:43:46,278 --> 00:43:55,400 shows the the physical reality the 839 00:43:53,159 --> 00:43:58,170 almost certain physical reality of 840 00:43:55,400 --> 00:44:01,430 flying objects which are completely 841 00:43:58,170 --> 00:44:04,858 unknown with flight characteristics and 842 00:44:01,429 --> 00:44:09,058 remarkable sound characteristics which 843 00:44:04,858 --> 00:44:12,929 are which are apparently driven or 844 00:44:09,059 --> 00:44:18,390 austere steered by intelligences these 845 00:44:12,929 --> 00:44:21,139 flying objects are very interesting for 846 00:44:18,389 --> 00:44:24,208 their maneuvers their flight manoeuvres 847 00:44:21,139 --> 00:44:27,509 for pilots for civil pilots and military 848 00:44:24,208 --> 00:44:29,998 pilots who only who only speak about it 849 00:44:27,509 --> 00:44:36,088 very hesitantly because they fear that 850 00:44:29,998 --> 00:44:38,669 they will be ridiculed secret secret 851 00:44:36,088 --> 00:44:42,028 flight secret craft of terrestrial 852 00:44:38,670 --> 00:44:45,630 origin can be excluded because they can 853 00:44:42,028 --> 00:44:49,889 only explain minority of the cases and 854 00:44:45,630 --> 00:44:53,209 there is only one hypothesis which takes 855 00:44:49,889 --> 00:44:59,098 sufficiently into account the facts and 856 00:44:53,208 --> 00:45:02,219 the the the science of nowadays they 857 00:44:59,099 --> 00:45:04,680 sell the visitor extra arrest so the 858 00:45:02,219 --> 00:45:07,528 only hypothesis that these military 859 00:45:04,679 --> 00:45:09,478 experts consider valid for the UFO 860 00:45:07,528 --> 00:45:13,309 phenomenon after their three-year 861 00:45:09,478 --> 00:45:16,998 military study is the hypothesis of 862 00:45:13,309 --> 00:45:20,789 extraterrestrial visitors you should 863 00:45:16,998 --> 00:45:22,079 take this into account they further go 864 00:45:20,789 --> 00:45:24,330 on to say the 865 00:45:22,079 --> 00:45:27,569 terrestrial hypothesis is is by far the 866 00:45:24,329 --> 00:45:30,509 best scientific hypothesis it is 867 00:45:27,570 --> 00:45:33,630 certainly not categorically proven but 868 00:45:30,510 --> 00:45:35,670 there are strong they're strong evidence 869 00:45:33,630 --> 00:45:39,780 which point into this direction and if 870 00:45:35,670 --> 00:45:43,409 they are correct they they have a lot a 871 00:45:39,780 --> 00:45:49,170 great number of consequences and they 872 00:45:43,409 --> 00:45:52,710 also recommend that the the aims of 873 00:45:49,170 --> 00:45:55,710 these visitors they are they are unknown 874 00:45:52,710 --> 00:45:57,960 but they have to to be included into the 875 00:45:55,710 --> 00:46:00,389 general discussion so they say we need 876 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:04,650 to stop to ridicule the subject it is 877 00:46:00,389 --> 00:46:07,199 real and we have to deal with it so how 878 00:46:04,650 --> 00:46:09,510 come we don't know about it I don't know 879 00:46:07,199 --> 00:46:12,960 what is the situation here in Portugal I 880 00:46:09,510 --> 00:46:16,110 assume that in Portugal people are more 881 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:20,309 open to this phenomenon because we are 882 00:46:16,110 --> 00:46:21,780 here at the University so you know I 883 00:46:20,309 --> 00:46:24,420 think this would be really difficult in 884 00:46:21,780 --> 00:46:29,010 Germany so how come we don't know about 885 00:46:24,420 --> 00:46:30,900 this you should know that the these are 886 00:46:29,010 --> 00:46:33,690 also files that were released by the 887 00:46:30,900 --> 00:46:35,190 British National Archive you should know 888 00:46:33,690 --> 00:46:38,130 that the Central Intelligence Agency 889 00:46:35,190 --> 00:46:40,440 back in the 1952 has already made plans 890 00:46:38,130 --> 00:46:46,740 how to deal with the UFO phenomenon and 891 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:47,550 there there is a memo which which 892 00:46:46,739 --> 00:46:52,109 analyzes 893 00:46:47,550 --> 00:46:55,140 the possibilities to use UFOs for their 894 00:46:52,110 --> 00:46:57,480 political aims they say with the 895 00:46:55,139 --> 00:47:00,089 worldwide and and this is about the 896 00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:03,300 Soviet Union they say we have not found 897 00:47:00,090 --> 00:47:05,809 any reports on UFOs in the Soviet press 898 00:47:03,300 --> 00:47:08,700 which can only be due to the fact that 899 00:47:05,809 --> 00:47:11,489 the government is against reports in the 900 00:47:08,699 --> 00:47:13,919 press and they say the question 901 00:47:11,489 --> 00:47:16,019 therefore arises as to whether or not 902 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:19,740 these sightings could be controlled 903 00:47:16,019 --> 00:47:23,130 could be predicted or could be used from 904 00:47:19,739 --> 00:47:26,069 a psychological warfare point of view 905 00:47:23,130 --> 00:47:29,099 either offensively or defensively and 906 00:47:26,070 --> 00:47:31,500 they go on to state the public concern 907 00:47:29,099 --> 00:47:34,739 with this phenomenon is reflected in the 908 00:47:31,500 --> 00:47:36,269 United States Press and it indicates 909 00:47:34,739 --> 00:47:38,309 that a fair portion of 910 00:47:36,269 --> 00:47:41,099 our population so that many people do 911 00:47:38,309 --> 00:47:43,799 believe in the incredible and in this 912 00:47:41,099 --> 00:47:47,250 fact lies the potential for the touching 913 00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:50,700 of of a mass panic mass hysteria and 914 00:47:47,250 --> 00:47:53,369 panic so they were already at we're back 915 00:47:50,699 --> 00:47:56,730 in 1952 that the UFO phenomenon is 916 00:47:53,369 --> 00:48:00,289 something that their political enemy 917 00:47:56,730 --> 00:48:03,360 could use against them by you know 918 00:48:00,289 --> 00:48:05,279 causing UFO sightings and then creating 919 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:07,980 a mass hysteria and panic and that is 920 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:10,230 already in itself for this Central 921 00:48:07,980 --> 00:48:12,659 Intelligence Agency 922 00:48:10,230 --> 00:48:16,610 a good reason to keep it secret and to 923 00:48:12,659 --> 00:48:19,349 do something against it and they did in 924 00:48:16,610 --> 00:48:21,809 1953 they they commissioned this 925 00:48:19,349 --> 00:48:26,429 three-day a CIA sponsored expert panel 926 00:48:21,809 --> 00:48:29,489 and this expert panel by the CIA 927 00:48:26,429 --> 00:48:32,699 you know they analyzed all the data you 928 00:48:29,489 --> 00:48:36,000 know three days and they concluded that 929 00:48:32,699 --> 00:48:40,049 the continued emphasis on the reporting 930 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:42,300 of these phenomena may result in a 931 00:48:40,050 --> 00:48:44,640 threat to the orderly functioning of the 932 00:48:42,300 --> 00:48:48,240 protective organs of the body politic 933 00:48:44,639 --> 00:48:50,609 and they also say the national security 934 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:52,169 agencies that's what they recommend they 935 00:48:50,610 --> 00:48:55,050 recommend that the national security 936 00:48:52,170 --> 00:48:57,570 agencies take immediate steps to strip 937 00:48:55,050 --> 00:48:59,580 the unidentified flying objects of the 938 00:48:57,570 --> 00:49:02,280 special status they have been giving and 939 00:48:59,579 --> 00:49:04,170 the aura of mystery on this may be 940 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:06,870 achieved by an integrated program 941 00:49:04,170 --> 00:49:09,360 designed to reassure the public of the 942 00:49:06,869 --> 00:49:11,190 total lack of evidence so there's no 943 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:13,230 evidence you know we just have to tell 944 00:49:11,190 --> 00:49:14,130 them others no evidence is just natural 945 00:49:13,230 --> 00:49:17,070 phenomena that's it 946 00:49:14,130 --> 00:49:19,920 and that's the recommendation of the 947 00:49:17,070 --> 00:49:21,960 Robertson panel and you might know this 948 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:24,659 scientific study of unidentified flying 949 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:29,610 object it's an important study this is 950 00:49:24,659 --> 00:49:33,119 the Americans back in 1969 the so-called 951 00:49:29,610 --> 00:49:34,050 the Condor the Condon report and the 952 00:49:33,119 --> 00:49:37,739 Condor report 953 00:49:34,050 --> 00:49:40,200 this is mr. Condon mr. Condon concluded 954 00:49:37,739 --> 00:49:42,359 that there's nothing there that nothing 955 00:49:40,199 --> 00:49:45,269 has come from the studies of UFOs in the 956 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:47,019 past 21 years that has added to 957 00:49:45,269 --> 00:49:49,690 scientific knowledge 958 00:49:47,019 --> 00:49:52,030 and that this fact leads them to 959 00:49:49,690 --> 00:49:54,250 conclude that further extensive study of 960 00:49:52,030 --> 00:49:57,640 UFOs can probably not be justified 961 00:49:54,250 --> 00:50:02,500 because it is not of interest to for 962 00:49:57,639 --> 00:50:04,839 science you want me to ask you to show 963 00:50:02,500 --> 00:50:07,480 you the the military radar traces again 964 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:09,789 from Switzerland how is it possible that 965 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:12,280 an object can make a right angle turn at 966 00:50:09,789 --> 00:50:14,800 Mach 4 is that not something which would 967 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:17,110 be interesting for science or what and 968 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:20,800 also you should know that the conclusion 969 00:50:17,110 --> 00:50:22,780 directly contradicts the data in the in 970 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:25,150 the content report there are some cases 971 00:50:22,780 --> 00:50:26,830 there also even cases described in there 972 00:50:25,150 --> 00:50:31,570 with right angle turns at high speed so 973 00:50:26,829 --> 00:50:37,960 the conclusion is income is incongruent 974 00:50:31,570 --> 00:50:40,390 with the data ok I'll leave that out the 975 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:42,940 former CIA director himself said that 976 00:50:40,389 --> 00:50:45,909 the Air Force is soberly concerned about 977 00:50:42,940 --> 00:50:48,970 UFOs but through official secrecy and 978 00:50:45,909 --> 00:50:51,519 ridicule ridicule citizens are led to 979 00:50:48,969 --> 00:50:55,239 believe the unknown flying objects are 980 00:50:51,519 --> 00:50:57,730 nonsense and the Air Force to hide the 981 00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:59,859 facts has silent it's personal and this 982 00:50:57,730 --> 00:51:01,990 is from the New York Times so it's I I 983 00:50:59,860 --> 00:51:05,050 mean this is this is a credible source 984 00:51:01,989 --> 00:51:06,849 so the former CIA director himself said 985 00:51:05,050 --> 00:51:09,340 that the US Air Force's route has been 986 00:51:06,849 --> 00:51:15,309 ridiculing this subject but it goes even 987 00:51:09,340 --> 00:51:18,700 further I have to okay good I'll jump 988 00:51:15,309 --> 00:51:21,159 over this the CIA has total control of a 989 00:51:18,699 --> 00:51:22,960 mass media there's a memo there which 990 00:51:21,159 --> 00:51:23,769 you can download on disclosure project 991 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,690 org 992 00:51:23,769 --> 00:51:28,420 where they say that the Public Affairs 993 00:51:25,690 --> 00:51:30,400 Office of the CIA has relationship with 994 00:51:28,420 --> 00:51:33,639 reporters from every major wire service 995 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:35,740 and just note that the word every is 996 00:51:33,639 --> 00:51:38,920 highlighted even in the original report 997 00:51:35,739 --> 00:51:41,079 every major wire service newspaper news 998 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:43,780 weekly da-da-da-da-da you know and this 999 00:51:41,079 --> 00:51:46,210 has helped them to change stories which 1000 00:51:43,780 --> 00:51:49,530 could have affected national security or 1001 00:51:46,210 --> 00:51:53,490 jeopardize source sources and methods 1002 00:51:49,530 --> 00:51:53,490 I'll jump over this 1003 00:51:54,159 --> 00:51:58,219 so that's the last point I need another 1004 00:51:56,599 --> 00:52:01,610 three minutes all right 1005 00:51:58,219 --> 00:52:04,759 three minutes how do we deal with the 1006 00:52:01,610 --> 00:52:06,440 situation a mass media is lying is it's 1007 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:08,660 not well it's at least not in the loop 1008 00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:10,880 they don't know anything our politicians 1009 00:52:08,659 --> 00:52:12,679 don't know anything or if they know and 1010 00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:16,280 if they know something 1011 00:52:12,679 --> 00:52:21,049 they're either no real politicians or if 1012 00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:23,000 you bought or whatever so how do we deal 1013 00:52:21,050 --> 00:52:28,160 with this situation UFOs have been 1014 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:32,300 really cooled for 60 years now how can 1015 00:52:28,159 --> 00:52:34,849 we escape from this I don't know I can 1016 00:52:32,300 --> 00:52:41,090 tell you what we do in Germany okay we 1017 00:52:34,849 --> 00:52:43,849 have a website what you see here is the 1018 00:52:41,090 --> 00:52:47,920 website EXO politic dark with a k' 1019 00:52:43,849 --> 00:52:52,009 that's German that's my my co-moderator 1020 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:53,570 Anya who's also present here who has 1021 00:52:52,010 --> 00:52:57,170 been helping me a lot and thank you very 1022 00:52:53,570 --> 00:53:00,050 much Anya what we're doing is we're 1023 00:52:57,170 --> 00:53:00,590 doing a TV show sort of TV show on the 1024 00:53:00,050 --> 00:53:02,720 Internet 1025 00:53:00,590 --> 00:53:05,390 we are presenting the facts as they are 1026 00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:07,939 and we say that their effects and when 1027 00:53:05,389 --> 00:53:10,279 we talk about speculation we say that it 1028 00:53:07,940 --> 00:53:13,700 is speculation which is important 1029 00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:17,510 because there's so much speculation and 1030 00:53:13,699 --> 00:53:21,439 and nonsense in this field you can you 1031 00:53:17,510 --> 00:53:24,640 can actually exclude 95% of all the 1032 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:29,690 information in the public domain it's 1033 00:53:24,639 --> 00:53:32,239 you know it's disinformation whatever we 1034 00:53:29,690 --> 00:53:36,679 also have an online community this is a 1035 00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:41,269 profile our citizen movement in Germany 1036 00:53:36,679 --> 00:53:46,190 now has more than 2000 members and more 1037 00:53:41,269 --> 00:53:49,369 than 130 out of 130 140 activists and 1038 00:53:46,190 --> 00:53:53,990 that has only been since August 2010 so 1039 00:53:49,369 --> 00:53:58,900 it's very fast growing and they can 1040 00:53:53,989 --> 00:54:01,298 exchange their views there and they can 1041 00:53:58,900 --> 00:54:04,358 yeah they can find information they can 1042 00:54:01,298 --> 00:54:06,219 especially for it they can most 1043 00:54:04,358 --> 00:54:08,108 importantly they can find other people 1044 00:54:06,219 --> 00:54:10,179 that they can talk to because it's 1045 00:54:08,108 --> 00:54:12,219 really difficult to find people who are 1046 00:54:10,179 --> 00:54:16,059 informed enough to have an informed 1047 00:54:12,219 --> 00:54:18,729 opinion and why is it that this movement 1048 00:54:16,059 --> 00:54:20,890 is so rapidly growing I'm sorry this is 1049 00:54:18,728 --> 00:54:24,278 still in German it says important 1050 00:54:20,889 --> 00:54:26,489 question for mankind it is because in 1051 00:54:24,278 --> 00:54:29,079 the end the question of 1052 00:54:26,489 --> 00:54:31,809 extraterrestrials yes or no on earth is 1053 00:54:29,079 --> 00:54:35,169 not so much about the extraterrestrials 1054 00:54:31,809 --> 00:54:37,749 it's about us as mankind how do we deal 1055 00:54:35,168 --> 00:54:39,788 with it you know this would be the 1056 00:54:37,748 --> 00:54:43,118 biggest discovery in the history of the 1057 00:54:39,789 --> 00:54:44,769 world just imagine that we discover that 1058 00:54:43,119 --> 00:54:47,289 we are not alone it would it would 1059 00:54:44,768 --> 00:54:50,528 fundamentally revolutionize the whole 1060 00:54:47,289 --> 00:54:53,319 way we think about ourselves our place 1061 00:54:50,528 --> 00:54:56,048 in the universe the way our society is 1062 00:54:53,318 --> 00:55:00,489 organized the way we do politics just 1063 00:54:56,048 --> 00:55:02,619 imagine a question you know from when 1064 00:55:00,489 --> 00:55:04,380 there is a first contact you know people 1065 00:55:02,619 --> 00:55:07,479 would start to ask themselves questions 1066 00:55:04,380 --> 00:55:10,949 how you know what is the tax rate on 1067 00:55:07,478 --> 00:55:13,928 your planet oh you don't have taxes oh 1068 00:55:10,949 --> 00:55:16,088 and why didn't why'd you do it does your 1069 00:55:13,929 --> 00:55:20,918 government on your planet have a war 1070 00:55:16,088 --> 00:55:22,630 with oh you don't have war you know and 1071 00:55:20,918 --> 00:55:25,538 also there's the whole question about 1072 00:55:22,630 --> 00:55:27,640 technology which I think Fredrik is 1073 00:55:25,539 --> 00:55:31,569 going to dive into it's going to 1074 00:55:27,639 --> 00:55:35,879 revolutionize everything and it is time 1075 00:55:31,568 --> 00:55:38,558 for us to engage in that process because 1076 00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:41,559 the phenomena is real it's here it's 1077 00:55:38,559 --> 00:55:43,890 been ridiculed for 60 years and it's 1078 00:55:41,559 --> 00:55:47,169 time to deal with it and my personal 1079 00:55:43,889 --> 00:55:49,328 opinion about this is that the evolution 1080 00:55:47,168 --> 00:55:52,328 of consciousness and life in the 1081 00:55:49,329 --> 00:55:55,630 universe will not be stopped by some 1082 00:55:52,329 --> 00:55:59,019 stubborn power driven politicians or 1083 00:55:55,630 --> 00:56:00,999 people whatsoever on this planet who 1084 00:55:59,018 --> 00:56:04,058 want to try to preserve their power 1085 00:56:00,998 --> 00:56:07,149 position it's time for mankind to engage 1086 00:56:04,059 --> 00:56:09,130 this and I want to invite you to think 1087 00:56:07,150 --> 00:56:10,920 for yourself to make your own opinion 1088 00:56:09,130 --> 00:56:16,490 don't believe 1089 00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:16,490 check for yourself thank you very much